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OPINION – Bell 429 for RMI is clever marketing

written by australianaviation.com.au | March 16, 2012
A Bell 429 for the RMI contract arrives at Bankstown. (Grahame Hutchison)

Raytheon Australia’s replacement of its Agusta A109E Power helicopters it has operated since 2007 for the Navy’s Retention and Motivation Initiative (RMI) at Nowra with three new Bell 429s was a clever bit of marketing on the company’s behalf.

Not only is Raytheon offering the 429 for the ADF’s AIR 9000 Phase 7 helicopter aircraft training system (HATS) requirement, tenders for which close on April 19, but one of its competitor teamings for HATS – BAE Systems and CAE – is offering an enhanced version of the A109, the AW109 Grand New, so it was a smart move to get the competitor out and its offering in.

Navy insiders tell AA they have been generally happy with the A109, saying it lives up to its Italian heritage and handles and looks like a “sports car”. As the RMI tag suggests, the machines have been used to keep naval helicopter pilots engaged while they transitioned through the backlog from initial training on Squirrel helicopters to operational squadrons flying Seahawks, the now retired Sea Kings, and the new but very late MRH 90s. To this end, the three machines have flown more than 6000 hours in the four and a half years they’ve been in service.

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The backlog was essentially formed by the 2008 cancellation of the failed Seasprite project, effectively leaving Navy with 11 fewer operational machines, on top of a Sea King capability that was struggling to regain momentum after the awful Nias Island crash in 2005, and an already stressed Seahawk fleet which was at the time struggling through a prolonged upgrade program. Fortunately, with that upgrade now complete and the recent generation of an extra Seahawk flight, the long awaited introduction of the MRH 90 later this year, and the new MH-60R Romeo due to start replacing the Seahawks from 2014, this backlog should start clearing soon.

The A109Es are given a farewell salute. (Dept of Defence)

The A109Es allowed pilots awaiting operational conversion to fly in and maintain currency on an economical yet high performance twin engined machine with modern avionics, and to learn and exercise basic operational procedures. But the A109s reportedly had some restrictions – especially for taller pilots in the height restricted front seats – and limited endurance, most of which has reportedly been alleviated in the newer Grand New.

By comparison, the 429 has more range, a much larger cab, and features a basic light utility application through the removal of its rear seats and clam-shell rear doors, although this is unlikely to be a requirement for the training helicopter.

The other HATS competitor is Eurocopter’s EC135 which is being offered by at least three of the bidders – Australian Aerospace, KBR/QDS/Elbit and Boeing/Thales. Defence has also had some exposure to the EC135 through the placement of two machines in Darwin from 2008 to 2011 – at Eurocopter’s expense – to keep prospective ARH Tiger crews current while that program’s issues were sorted out.

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7 Comments

  • pez

    says:

    A minor, petty thing; I hope one of the new 429s get the black and gold livery one of the 109Es got. Damn that thing looked fantastic.

  • Ben

    says:

    Perhaps if government hurried up with their process. One moment a quick decision with an FMS. The next a long heel dragging exercise. This is one of the latter. Meanwhile, is this really retaining, or is it providing an interim role to train up young pilots who move on because they are Disillusioned.

  • Mish

    says:

    I notice that all the new operational helicopters for the Defence Force will be wheeled aircraft into the future!!

    I would of thought it would make sense to have the Retention aircraft and the future training aircraft wheeled. The 429 and the 135 are fitted with skids.

    As to Raytheon maintaining the A109 aircraft but sitting on the Bell camp…..well what a conflict of interest….could not imagine that Raytheon would paint a rosy picture of the 109 whilst pushing for the Bell product!!!

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. The aircraft is tmaintain currency until pilots are moved onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. As I understand it the 429’s are there for the crews to maintain currency until moving onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist…

  • Wayne

    says:

    B429 is an excellent choice. Also gives RAN a utility helo if required rather than deploying bigger aircraft for little jobs.

    I think another dozen would be the bees knees..

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OPINION – Bell 429 for RMI is clever marketing

written by australianaviation.com.au | March 16, 2012
A Bell 429 for the RMI contract arrives at Bankstown. (Grahame Hutchison)

Raytheon Australia’s replacement of its Agusta A109E Power helicopters it has operated since 2007 for the Navy’s Retention and Motivation Initiative (RMI) at Nowra with three new Bell 429s was a clever bit of marketing on the company’s behalf.

Not only is Raytheon offering the 429 for the ADF’s AIR 9000 Phase 7 helicopter aircraft training system (HATS) requirement, tenders for which close on April 19, but one of its competitor teamings for HATS – BAE Systems and CAE – is offering an enhanced version of the A109, the AW109 Grand New, so it was a smart move to get the competitor out and its offering in.

Navy insiders tell AA they have been generally happy with the A109, saying it lives up to its Italian heritage and handles and looks like a “sports car”. As the RMI tag suggests, the machines have been used to keep naval helicopter pilots engaged while they transitioned through the backlog from initial training on Squirrel helicopters to operational squadrons flying Seahawks, the now retired Sea Kings, and the new but very late MRH 90s. To this end, the three machines have flown more than 6000 hours in the four and a half years they’ve been in service.

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The backlog was essentially formed by the 2008 cancellation of the failed Seasprite project, effectively leaving Navy with 11 fewer operational machines, on top of a Sea King capability that was struggling to regain momentum after the awful Nias Island crash in 2005, and an already stressed Seahawk fleet which was at the time struggling through a prolonged upgrade program. Fortunately, with that upgrade now complete and the recent generation of an extra Seahawk flight, the long awaited introduction of the MRH 90 later this year, and the new MH-60R Romeo due to start replacing the Seahawks from 2014, this backlog should start clearing soon.

The A109Es are given a farewell salute. (Dept of Defence)

The A109Es allowed pilots awaiting operational conversion to fly in and maintain currency on an economical yet high performance twin engined machine with modern avionics, and to learn and exercise basic operational procedures. But the A109s reportedly had some restrictions – especially for taller pilots in the height restricted front seats – and limited endurance, most of which has reportedly been alleviated in the newer Grand New.

By comparison, the 429 has more range, a much larger cab, and features a basic light utility application through the removal of its rear seats and clam-shell rear doors, although this is unlikely to be a requirement for the training helicopter.

The other HATS competitor is Eurocopter’s EC135 which is being offered by at least three of the bidders – Australian Aerospace, KBR/QDS/Elbit and Boeing/Thales. Defence has also had some exposure to the EC135 through the placement of two machines in Darwin from 2008 to 2011 – at Eurocopter’s expense – to keep prospective ARH Tiger crews current while that program’s issues were sorted out.

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Yet to declare its offering is the Lockheed Martin/Bristow teaming, although with Bristow’s buying power, its bid price should be keen!

Andrew McLaughlin

25% off starts now! Australian Aviation magazine Cyber Monday sale is now live. Have the very best of Australian Aviation’s annual print and digital subscription. This includes every In Focus and Behind the Lens digital magazine, special coverage, exclusive photos and editions you may have miss. Subscribe now at australianaviation.com.au.

7 Comments

  • pez

    says:

    A minor, petty thing; I hope one of the new 429s get the black and gold livery one of the 109Es got. Damn that thing looked fantastic.

  • Ben

    says:

    Perhaps if government hurried up with their process. One moment a quick decision with an FMS. The next a long heel dragging exercise. This is one of the latter. Meanwhile, is this really retaining, or is it providing an interim role to train up young pilots who move on because they are Disillusioned.

  • Mish

    says:

    I notice that all the new operational helicopters for the Defence Force will be wheeled aircraft into the future!!

    I would of thought it would make sense to have the Retention aircraft and the future training aircraft wheeled. The 429 and the 135 are fitted with skids.

    As to Raytheon maintaining the A109 aircraft but sitting on the Bell camp…..well what a conflict of interest….could not imagine that Raytheon would paint a rosy picture of the 109 whilst pushing for the Bell product!!!

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. The aircraft is tmaintain currency until pilots are moved onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. As I understand it the 429’s are there for the crews to maintain currency until moving onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist…

  • Wayne

    says:

    B429 is an excellent choice. Also gives RAN a utility helo if required rather than deploying bigger aircraft for little jobs.

    I think another dozen would be the bees knees..

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OPINION – Bell 429 for RMI is clever marketing

written by australianaviation.com.au | March 16, 2012
A Bell 429 for the RMI contract arrives at Bankstown. (Grahame Hutchison)

Raytheon Australia’s replacement of its Agusta A109E Power helicopters it has operated since 2007 for the Navy’s Retention and Motivation Initiative (RMI) at Nowra with three new Bell 429s was a clever bit of marketing on the company’s behalf.

Not only is Raytheon offering the 429 for the ADF’s AIR 9000 Phase 7 helicopter aircraft training system (HATS) requirement, tenders for which close on April 19, but one of its competitor teamings for HATS – BAE Systems and CAE – is offering an enhanced version of the A109, the AW109 Grand New, so it was a smart move to get the competitor out and its offering in.

Navy insiders tell AA they have been generally happy with the A109, saying it lives up to its Italian heritage and handles and looks like a “sports car”. As the RMI tag suggests, the machines have been used to keep naval helicopter pilots engaged while they transitioned through the backlog from initial training on Squirrel helicopters to operational squadrons flying Seahawks, the now retired Sea Kings, and the new but very late MRH 90s. To this end, the three machines have flown more than 6000 hours in the four and a half years they’ve been in service.

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The backlog was essentially formed by the 2008 cancellation of the failed Seasprite project, effectively leaving Navy with 11 fewer operational machines, on top of a Sea King capability that was struggling to regain momentum after the awful Nias Island crash in 2005, and an already stressed Seahawk fleet which was at the time struggling through a prolonged upgrade program. Fortunately, with that upgrade now complete and the recent generation of an extra Seahawk flight, the long awaited introduction of the MRH 90 later this year, and the new MH-60R Romeo due to start replacing the Seahawks from 2014, this backlog should start clearing soon.

The A109Es are given a farewell salute. (Dept of Defence)

The A109Es allowed pilots awaiting operational conversion to fly in and maintain currency on an economical yet high performance twin engined machine with modern avionics, and to learn and exercise basic operational procedures. But the A109s reportedly had some restrictions – especially for taller pilots in the height restricted front seats – and limited endurance, most of which has reportedly been alleviated in the newer Grand New.

By comparison, the 429 has more range, a much larger cab, and features a basic light utility application through the removal of its rear seats and clam-shell rear doors, although this is unlikely to be a requirement for the training helicopter.

The other HATS competitor is Eurocopter’s EC135 which is being offered by at least three of the bidders – Australian Aerospace, KBR/QDS/Elbit and Boeing/Thales. Defence has also had some exposure to the EC135 through the placement of two machines in Darwin from 2008 to 2011 – at Eurocopter’s expense – to keep prospective ARH Tiger crews current while that program’s issues were sorted out.

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Yet to declare its offering is the Lockheed Martin/Bristow teaming, although with Bristow’s buying power, its bid price should be keen!

Andrew McLaughlin

25% off starts now! Australian Aviation magazine Cyber Monday sale is now live. Have the very best of Australian Aviation’s annual print and digital subscription. This includes every In Focus and Behind the Lens digital magazine, special coverage, exclusive photos and editions you may have miss. Subscribe now at australianaviation.com.au.

7 Comments

  • pez

    says:

    A minor, petty thing; I hope one of the new 429s get the black and gold livery one of the 109Es got. Damn that thing looked fantastic.

  • Ben

    says:

    Perhaps if government hurried up with their process. One moment a quick decision with an FMS. The next a long heel dragging exercise. This is one of the latter. Meanwhile, is this really retaining, or is it providing an interim role to train up young pilots who move on because they are Disillusioned.

  • Mish

    says:

    I notice that all the new operational helicopters for the Defence Force will be wheeled aircraft into the future!!

    I would of thought it would make sense to have the Retention aircraft and the future training aircraft wheeled. The 429 and the 135 are fitted with skids.

    As to Raytheon maintaining the A109 aircraft but sitting on the Bell camp…..well what a conflict of interest….could not imagine that Raytheon would paint a rosy picture of the 109 whilst pushing for the Bell product!!!

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. The aircraft is tmaintain currency until pilots are moved onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. As I understand it the 429’s are there for the crews to maintain currency until moving onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist…

  • Wayne

    says:

    B429 is an excellent choice. Also gives RAN a utility helo if required rather than deploying bigger aircraft for little jobs.

    I think another dozen would be the bees knees..

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OPINION – Bell 429 for RMI is clever marketing

written by australianaviation.com.au | March 16, 2012
A Bell 429 for the RMI contract arrives at Bankstown. (Grahame Hutchison)

Raytheon Australia’s replacement of its Agusta A109E Power helicopters it has operated since 2007 for the Navy’s Retention and Motivation Initiative (RMI) at Nowra with three new Bell 429s was a clever bit of marketing on the company’s behalf.

Not only is Raytheon offering the 429 for the ADF’s AIR 9000 Phase 7 helicopter aircraft training system (HATS) requirement, tenders for which close on April 19, but one of its competitor teamings for HATS – BAE Systems and CAE – is offering an enhanced version of the A109, the AW109 Grand New, so it was a smart move to get the competitor out and its offering in.

Navy insiders tell AA they have been generally happy with the A109, saying it lives up to its Italian heritage and handles and looks like a “sports car”. As the RMI tag suggests, the machines have been used to keep naval helicopter pilots engaged while they transitioned through the backlog from initial training on Squirrel helicopters to operational squadrons flying Seahawks, the now retired Sea Kings, and the new but very late MRH 90s. To this end, the three machines have flown more than 6000 hours in the four and a half years they’ve been in service.

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The backlog was essentially formed by the 2008 cancellation of the failed Seasprite project, effectively leaving Navy with 11 fewer operational machines, on top of a Sea King capability that was struggling to regain momentum after the awful Nias Island crash in 2005, and an already stressed Seahawk fleet which was at the time struggling through a prolonged upgrade program. Fortunately, with that upgrade now complete and the recent generation of an extra Seahawk flight, the long awaited introduction of the MRH 90 later this year, and the new MH-60R Romeo due to start replacing the Seahawks from 2014, this backlog should start clearing soon.

The A109Es are given a farewell salute. (Dept of Defence)

The A109Es allowed pilots awaiting operational conversion to fly in and maintain currency on an economical yet high performance twin engined machine with modern avionics, and to learn and exercise basic operational procedures. But the A109s reportedly had some restrictions – especially for taller pilots in the height restricted front seats – and limited endurance, most of which has reportedly been alleviated in the newer Grand New.

By comparison, the 429 has more range, a much larger cab, and features a basic light utility application through the removal of its rear seats and clam-shell rear doors, although this is unlikely to be a requirement for the training helicopter.

The other HATS competitor is Eurocopter’s EC135 which is being offered by at least three of the bidders – Australian Aerospace, KBR/QDS/Elbit and Boeing/Thales. Defence has also had some exposure to the EC135 through the placement of two machines in Darwin from 2008 to 2011 – at Eurocopter’s expense – to keep prospective ARH Tiger crews current while that program’s issues were sorted out.

PROMOTED CONTENT

Yet to declare its offering is the Lockheed Martin/Bristow teaming, although with Bristow’s buying power, its bid price should be keen!

Andrew McLaughlin

25% off starts now! Australian Aviation magazine Cyber Monday sale is now live. Have the very best of Australian Aviation’s annual print and digital subscription. This includes every In Focus and Behind the Lens digital magazine, special coverage, exclusive photos and editions you may have miss. Subscribe now at australianaviation.com.au.

7 Comments

  • pez

    says:

    A minor, petty thing; I hope one of the new 429s get the black and gold livery one of the 109Es got. Damn that thing looked fantastic.

  • Ben

    says:

    Perhaps if government hurried up with their process. One moment a quick decision with an FMS. The next a long heel dragging exercise. This is one of the latter. Meanwhile, is this really retaining, or is it providing an interim role to train up young pilots who move on because they are Disillusioned.

  • Mish

    says:

    I notice that all the new operational helicopters for the Defence Force will be wheeled aircraft into the future!!

    I would of thought it would make sense to have the Retention aircraft and the future training aircraft wheeled. The 429 and the 135 are fitted with skids.

    As to Raytheon maintaining the A109 aircraft but sitting on the Bell camp…..well what a conflict of interest….could not imagine that Raytheon would paint a rosy picture of the 109 whilst pushing for the Bell product!!!

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. The aircraft is tmaintain currency until pilots are moved onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist

  • Andino

    says:

    The Bell 429 comes with a retractable wheels option as well as skids. As I understand it the 429’s are there for the crews to maintain currency until moving onto the bigger machines, it won’t make an ounce off difference to them…just follow the checklist…

  • Wayne

    says:

    B429 is an excellent choice. Also gives RAN a utility helo if required rather than deploying bigger aircraft for little jobs.

    I think another dozen would be the bees knees..

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