Opinion: Drones in, humans out

The interview was conducted with USMA Dean Brigadier General Shane Reeves.

“The biggest effect, I think, by far is artificial intelligence and drones (for transforming warfare in the future) … the current war in Ukraine, is very much a drone war already,” according to Musk.

“It’s sort of a contest between Russia and China to see who can deploy the most number of drones. If there’s a major power war, it’s very much going to be a drone war.

“I do worry about the existential risk of AI, which is that if you employ AI and drones, do you go down this path where eventually you get to Terminator? Try to avoid that.

“Minimise the Terminator risk. But I mean, essentially, when you’re making military drones, you are making Terminators. And I think you’re somewhat forced into giving the drone localised AI, because if AI is far away, it can’t control as well as localised AI.

“(Localised AI) it’s an autonomous scaling machine. Completely autonomous… you give it the okay in a particular arena, and it goes. With certain parameters, hopefully.

“Drones are going to be overwhelmingly what matters in any conflict between powers that have significant technology.

“Artificial intelligence is going to be so good, including localised AI. I mean, at the current rates, you’ll have some of that sort of rock-level AI probably that can be run on a drone. And so you could literally say this is the equipment that the drone needs to destroy. Go into that area. It’ll recognise what equipment needs to be destroyed and take it out.”

Musk elaborates that because of the lethality of modern drones there will be disadvantages and even physical detriments to having personnel on the frontlines of the battlefield.

“My personal belief is that it’ll actually be too dangerous to have humans at the front. It’s drones at the front,” he said.

“If you’ve seen some of the computer-controlled sniper rifles… they just don’t miss. So you’re fighting a machine that’s going to aim with micro-level accuracy, and never gets tired.

“At the front of the battle line, it’s just going to be just drones, and any humans caught in the crossfire are going to get killed… if you make the choice to be there, then you’re at a significant disadvantage.

“You got a million drones coming at you. Do you want to be there trying to take out drones with an assault rifle? It’s not going to be a good situation.”

Furthering the idea that military operations will be undertaken faster and with more precision by unmanned systems than actual personnel, Musk states that the age of human-piloted fighter aircraft is also coming to an end.

“I’m not sure there’s a lot of room opportunity for fighter pilots. Because I think if you’ve got a drone swarm coming at you, the pilot’s a liability in the fighter plane, to be honest,” he said.

“If you compare a drone versus a fighter plane, how easy is it to make a drone? It’s an order of magnitude, maybe a hundred… at least ten, maybe a hundred times easier to make the drone, and you can afford to sacrifice the drones.

“Whereas pilots, you don’t want to sacrifice the pilots. So my guess is that actually the age of human-piloted fighter aircraft is coming to an end.”

The international businessman, who already innovates in the space sector, also championed use of space based weaponry and communications as the ‘ultimate high-ground’.

“Space is ultimate high ground… and space is becoming increasingly militarised. Space-based communications is critical,” Musk said.

“Starlink is the backbone of the Ukrainian military communication system, because it can’t be blocked by the Russians, essentially. So on the front lines, all the fiber connections are cut. The cell towers are blown up, and the geostationary satellite links are jammed. The only thing that isn’t jammed is Starlink.

“If you can’t communicate, you don’t know what’s going on, you can’t receive orders, you can’t report information. And, whether it’s a human or a drone, they need communication. Any ground-based communications like fiber optic cables and cell phone towers will be destroyed… all you’ve got are basically analog radios and then for any kind of data communications is space-based.

“GPS has been effective for a long time, GPS jamming at this point is pretty easy, because the GPS signal is a weak signal. So it’s easy to do GPS jamming. So having sort of a next-generation system that can provide positioning is going to be very important. Space can also probably offer, you know, the ultimate weapons where you just have tungsten cannonballs from orbit.

“Rods from god… This is certainly something that can be done, which is you have just kinetic weapons from space or space-based lasers.”

During the interview, Musk also details his own personal mantra in regards to improving products and services.

“I do have this sort of simple first principles algorithm that I think could be quite helpful. And I sort of say it as a mantra to myself because I’ve made this mistake so many times,” he said.

“The first element is for any given thing, make the requirements less dumb… Whatever problem you’re solving, make the requirements less dumb and whoever gave you those requirements, even if they are the smartest person in the world, they’re still dumb.

“This is where, say military procurement, it goes wrong right at the outset with excess requirements. So you’ll get sort of this giant document of requirements, that actually should be one page. (and) if you don’t do that as a first step, then you can get the right answer but to the wrong question. If the question’s wrong, it doesn’t matter.

“Then step two is delete the part or process step. Delete and if you’re not adding back 10 per cent of what you deleted, you haven’t deleted enough.”